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Comments on the tradition of oral poetry in the Mahābhārata.
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And I am required to.
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Tell them a story.
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And that too they want in a.
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Not not in a process, right?
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But in a poetic style, in a musical style.
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So how should I?
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How should I behave?
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What can I do?
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Unfortunately, there was no printing press.
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Of course, the writing was there.
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I have no doubt about it that.
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The scripts were there, writing was there.
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Our forefathers.
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Believed and not only Indian forefathers, but that’s why the tradition also increased.
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Entire block Herblock had one culture.
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That is my feeling.
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What we say Southeast Asia.
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What we say Europe.
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Somewhere they were all living together.
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There is no doubt about it.
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That story will someday it will come out.
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It has not yet fully come out, only a part of it thanks to some script that that story.
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Has come out.
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To some extent.
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For that, we should be grateful to subsequently.
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Because about some script, people believed first of all that decision.
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This is just portal language or something concocted by crafty governments.
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That is the word used by them.
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I committed to memory bilingual the student of via class.
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Thrifty Brahmins I I made with nothing to myself.
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That was their first impression.
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Later on they could.
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William Jones
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Who was The Who was the founder of Royal Asiatic Society?
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Of Bengal.
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He was.
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Scholar of Greek Latin.
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Also Balto, Slavic he knew quite a lot.
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Then when he.
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Came to know something about some script, didn’t know much.
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He said, no, this is a noted language.
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It is a super super language, something like that.
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We should see that anywhere MacDonald’s book or winter next book, everybody quotes him.
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You want.
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Borough has quoted him instance with language Burroughs book.
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You see?
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T Boro Sanskrit language in the title of that book.
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Very good book.
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Then he said that this language is so intimately, not not.
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Not occasionally not, not casually, but, but so scientifically it is connected with all languages of the of Europe.
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And so ** *** saved so much and thereafter.
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Now some cities.
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He thought he was telling Dave, Angie.
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Some St does not belong to Southeast Asia only.
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Sounds great.
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Entire Europe.
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Entire Europe entire Southeast Asia.
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I don’t know.
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In Australia I was, I saw something like Hanuman.
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Some word of the name of this street, something like that.
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So these people were staying together somewhere, somewhere, somehow.
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And then.
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Somehow they were, they thought, separated.
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When they got separated and how they got separated, nobody knows.
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Of course somebody has added one book, Atlantis, that is a that’s a novel.
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That that gives some speculative ideas.
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It gives something.
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Who how this America became?
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Separate from from Europe and out that we don’t know.
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So this mahabharatha?
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Transmitted orally in the beginning.
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So how how to present?
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How to present these stories?
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The stories were already their stories, mostly related to.
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Guardians of communities.
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The sages.
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The leaders, the heroes.
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And they have to be.
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Communicated to a large.
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Gathering of audience, how how to do that?
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So as we learn Alphabet.
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To learn any language or any particular particular community language so they had to learn.
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Quite a lot of poetic formulas.
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They had to master.
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So that’s why, Kim Kuwada, Sanjaya, you will find so many.
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Chimacum, sanjaya.
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Kim Akhuwat pandawa
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And so on so forth.
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And when you see here and you come to.
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The Sunder Kanda of this.
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Here also you will find.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So when.
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When Hanuman goes to.
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Lanka and when you see Sita.
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That description, as you find in.
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The keywords are almost the same here also that we will locate slowly and gradually.
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And the same formula is used.
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Sue diva.
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In the loop back channel.
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As someone goes in search for Sita.
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So Sue Diva was also wondering here, there and everywhere in search for Nala and Damante and he sees the empty in a pilot.
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Serving working as a maidservant.
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So the description of Tamil NT in the palace and description of C to India.
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Ashoka garden.
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Just exactly the same words, the same formula.
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That is the poetic formula for formulas were fixed for.
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Fixed for several.
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Contexts contextual formulas.
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To describe a war, what would be the?
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Mala mala
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Amlan pankajam
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That is, that is a very.
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Very widely used formula for Marla Garland.
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And if you have.
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Rudra taraganj atha.
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If somebody is going on hunting so he will be described as Rudra Taraganj.
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And Kalidasa will bring about some more beauty.
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Pacha me.
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So Pinaki numb he will beautify it further.
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What is the translator?
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Which one?
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From the same point.
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That, of course, the same situation in the sky.
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Why the Rohini nakshatra is there?
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Rohini nakshatra is
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Being chased by rigor Shira nakshatra.
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Henry Garcia is being chased by Ardra nakshatra.
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And Ardra nakshatra presiding deity Lord Shiva.
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So Lord Shiva is hero.
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He’s changing.
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And is following ruining his dear love whatever?
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Whatever it is.
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So Rudra angle so that had been brought in the form of a story in the Puranas.
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It is a better job with a logic device to let us know the astronomical astronomical facts.
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In a in a in a funny funny style.
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Because if you learn it in a funny style, you will never forget it.
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You will remember it all the time.
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So, so the maharatha is the entire variable.
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The presentation through.
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The set sets of poetic formulas, as you will see, slowly and gradually, and in that sometimes once in a while.
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Particular details have also to they they commit blunders.
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Also some eminent critical editors commit blunders.
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That story we will.
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We will tell you later on.
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But the the main the the base or the foundation of that.
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Oral tradition is.
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The repetition.
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Of words, repetition of.
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Similes repetition of adjectives.
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Repetition of vocatives.
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Everywhere you will find that here also you see.
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This Viagra is bandua et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
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The question atrapada her anti mambety hasanpur.
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That also.
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Swara Krishna in Gita.
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You we have.
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This is several places you have.
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You gave for a shampoo somewhere, it is.
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Treated like that.
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So the point is formulas are there and there is.
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There is a freedom on the part of the oral oral poet to bring about certain certain modifications in that in those formulas.
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And so he goes on bringing about those modifications also.
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So let us see.